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answer the question, who does the nra speak for? >> it is hard to disentangle all the different people they kind of represent, but you have to look at it this way. they receive millions and millions of corporate donations. since about 2005, the policy center found they received $38.9 million from various gun industry groups and people that sell ammo, that sell assault-style weapons that were used in the tragedy in newtown. but, at the same time, you kind of scope that back and look at their entire budget, right? this group is about 220, $250 million they will spend in a year. and a vast majority comes from the dues they pay and the ads they send to those members. at one time you have this kind of very avid and very vocal group of gun owners sort of the grassroots. at the same time, you have this corporate element and some of the biggest donors individually are also the corporate elements. >> is the second amendments right advocacy group or is this a lobbying force for the gun industry? >> again, it is kind of hard to say, where does
answer the question, who does the nra speak for? >> it is hard to disentangle all the different people they kind of represent, but you have to look at it this way. they receive millions and millions of corporate donations. since about 2005, the policy center found they received $38.9 million from various gun industry groups and people that sell ammo, that sell assault-style weapons that were used in the tragedy in newtown. but, at the same time, you kind of scope that back and look at...
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from the nra said in his call to action from yesterday. take a listen to this. >> i call on congress today to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation and to do it now to make sure that blanket safety is in place when our kids return to school in january. >> lynn, you wrote about his speech during that news conference and you call his performance, you were very clear in saying, quote, it was cringe worthy. basically saying he was tone deaf. what were you expecting here? >> well, i expected that they said that they would have a meaningful suggestion to come forth on friday and even if you take seriously and no, you know, there's no -- nothing wrong with discussing if schools need beefed-up security and knowing that there's such a debate over the fiscal cliff did wayne lapierre think that with the few days left in congress they could get a report that no one would know what it would cost? it's mind-boggling. so i think if you're going to suggest something, if you want to be taken se
from the nra said in his call to action from yesterday. take a listen to this. >> i call on congress today to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation and to do it now to make sure that blanket safety is in place when our kids return to school in january. >> lynn, you wrote about his speech during that news conference and you call his performance, you were very clear in saying, quote, it was cringe worthy. basically saying...
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i'm not happy with the nra, i'm not happy with the nra and i'm a gun owner myself. there's just no reason for automatic weapons out in the public and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> i have many guns, but i do not have a 30 round clip and a semiautomatic weapon. we have a tragedy here and we have to address it. they are not addressing it. that is what i tell them. you are not addressing the situation here. >>. >> reporter: at a shooting range in california, others supported the nra. >> the only way to fight fire is with fire. so, if you have somebody that is armed and you are not, you are part of the problem, you are not part of the solution. >> i think it's a good idea. but you are going to have to train these people on how to use weapons. because once you start shooting inside of a classroom, someone will get hurt. the thing is not to let the intruder go into the classroom. >> reporter: how many armed guards to you need? every room, every door? the nra did not take questions after making the statement. don? >> thank you very much. lots more to
i'm not happy with the nra, i'm not happy with the nra and i'm a gun owner myself. there's just no reason for automatic weapons out in the public and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> i have many guns, but i do not have a 30 round clip and a semiautomatic weapon. we have a tragedy here and we have to address it. they are not addressing it. that is what i tell them. you are not addressing the situation here. >>. >> reporter: at a shooting range in...
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the nra builds on that role. it's this notion of the individual american who protects himself, who provides for himself, who joins the nra and says, my guns are the bottom line. the reality is, that the people who pay the cost of our romance with guns, the fact that the united states is awash in guns are not the people out in rural arkansas or utah or nevada who are card carrying members of the nra. they're young, black men in the inner city. they're the ones who died from gun homicide and have much higher rates than young, white men. >> you wrote a brilliant piece after the movie theater shooting in colorado saying, in 2008 and 2009, gun homicide was the leading cause of death for young black men. they died from gun violence mainly at the hands of other black males at a rate of eight times that of other young white males. all tragedies justifiably spark horror. the nra is not the only meaningful obstacle to reform. unfortunately, violence like this in the black community just doesn't get as much attention, or in
the nra builds on that role. it's this notion of the individual american who protects himself, who provides for himself, who joins the nra and says, my guns are the bottom line. the reality is, that the people who pay the cost of our romance with guns, the fact that the united states is awash in guns are not the people out in rural arkansas or utah or nevada who are card carrying members of the nra. they're young, black men in the inner city. they're the ones who died from gun homicide and have...
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ahead, the nra's chief -- the chief's plan. to arm teachers across the country is happening right now. aum over the country. we cannot let this happen. and the obamas reveal some secrets from behind the scenes, including the story behind the most shared photo of all time. stay with us. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. if you're still having difficulty breathing, ask your doctor if including adva
ahead, the nra's chief -- the chief's plan. to arm teachers across the country is happening right now. aum over the country. we cannot let this happen. and the obamas reveal some secrets from behind the scenes, including the story behind the most shared photo of all time. stay with us. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair...
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primarily because of the strong opposition by the nra. you know, the nra has been a very powerful lobby in washington. they have spent, you know, this past elengz cycle spent $18 million to -- on issue ads and a million dollars in direct contributions to political candidates. >> when you start -- 15 seconds to you catherine, will this happen, will this change in this coming congress? >> if congress is successful in taking care of the fiscal cliff is an indicator i can say no. >> thanks to all of you. >> thanks for having us. >> join us tomorrow from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. eastern. and we will be joined by tennessee republican congresswoman blackburn and congressman cohen. and be sure to catch "meet the press." check the local listings for that time. until then, have a very great saturday afternoon.
primarily because of the strong opposition by the nra. you know, the nra has been a very powerful lobby in washington. they have spent, you know, this past elengz cycle spent $18 million to -- on issue ads and a million dollars in direct contributions to political candidates. >> when you start -- 15 seconds to you catherine, will this happen, will this change in this coming congress? >> if congress is successful in taking care of the fiscal cliff is an indicator i can say no....
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nra arm school guards. lobbying groups call the arm and trade guards in schools on the same page as the memorial held for the hospice nurse work killed earlier this month. obama offers up kerry as top diplomat. the "los angeles times" has the front page story moviegoing as an endurance test. about how movies like "the hobbit" are epic lengths and smaller theaters say that hurts their profits. >>> president obama's in hawaii today where he and the first family will spend christmas. but the president says he will return to the white house after the holiday to continue working on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. joining me now, white house editor from politico, rachel smolkin. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> holiday red there, rachel. i will begin with you. is there any realistic timetable where a deal gets done beforian 1? look at the calendar. >> there's a realistic timetable but not an optimistic timetable. not a lot of holiday cheer going on in the nation's capital. after the stunning is heback sp
nra arm school guards. lobbying groups call the arm and trade guards in schools on the same page as the memorial held for the hospice nurse work killed earlier this month. obama offers up kerry as top diplomat. the "los angeles times" has the front page story moviegoing as an endurance test. about how movies like "the hobbit" are epic lengths and smaller theaters say that hurts their profits. >>> president obama's in hawaii today where he and the first family will...
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your reaction to the nra and you heard of lapierre's statement to the nra. what's your thought on the plan put out there to put guns in schools. >> first, richard, thank you for having me. my reaction to the statement yesterday is that i'm disappointed, but not surprised, candidly, and i think we have to stay very focused here and not be put off by the kind of distraction that was put forth yesterday. we certainly need to have concrete plans to make sure our schools are safe, but the notion of adding more guns as a solution is wrong minded and we shouldn't be distracted by the comments yesterday. this is what i believe they were. >> how practical is the idea put forth? the department of labor saying that the average salary for a police officer is about $55,000. there's about 100,000 public schools across the country and it would mean $5 billion if the plan were to be carried out. >> i don't think there's anything more precious than our kids so we do need to make sure that we change and have plans to address school safety, but i don't believe that yesterday w
your reaction to the nra and you heard of lapierre's statement to the nra. what's your thought on the plan put out there to put guns in schools. >> first, richard, thank you for having me. my reaction to the statement yesterday is that i'm disappointed, but not surprised, candidly, and i think we have to stay very focused here and not be put off by the kind of distraction that was put forth yesterday. we certainly need to have concrete plans to make sure our schools are safe, but the...
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we had a poll of nra members and gun owners and what we found was surprising. 74% of nra members thinks everybody who wants to buy a gun should have a background chick. 71% of nra members think if you are on a terror watch list you shouldn't be able to buy a gun. there's a broad and durable consensus about common sense things you can do and the nra members agree. it's the nra leadership that has a problem with it. >> goldie, you were just referencing these assault weapons, but even if an assault weapons ban was re-enacted, what about all those firearms that are already in circulation? how do we resolve the existing presence of lethal weapons in america today? >> you know, the last ban on assault weapons was riddled, literally riddled, with loopholes, including grandfathering in the right to keep the assault rifle that you already had in your possession. i am against that loophole. i am against, you know, the kinds of loopholes that allow gun shows to sell guns without proper identification to private buyers. you know, i think that we have got to look at reasonable, sensible laws that ke
we had a poll of nra members and gun owners and what we found was surprising. 74% of nra members thinks everybody who wants to buy a gun should have a background chick. 71% of nra members think if you are on a terror watch list you shouldn't be able to buy a gun. there's a broad and durable consensus about common sense things you can do and the nra members agree. it's the nra leadership that has a problem with it. >> goldie, you were just referencing these assault weapons, but even if an...
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what is the nra trying to do in the wake of these tragedies? talk about mental health, talk about video games, for heaven's sakes, when they really should be acknowledging that these kind of systems are very much needed. >> former a.t.f. agent william vizzard, thank you very much. karen finney, thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> you're welcome. >>> coming up, the poor romneys are still struggling to explain why mitt lost. their latest explanation, we can only hope, is the last romney lie of 2012. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk
what is the nra trying to do in the wake of these tragedies? talk about mental health, talk about video games, for heaven's sakes, when they really should be acknowledging that these kind of systems are very much needed. >> former a.t.f. agent william vizzard, thank you very much. karen finney, thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> you're welcome. >>> coming up, the poor romneys are still struggling to explain why mitt lost. their latest explanation, we can only...
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the nra, of course, disagrees. miguel? >> you know your way around the corridors of power in washington. did the nra, wayne lapierre hurt himself in friday by what can only be described as this rant? >> well, look, emotions across the country are running so high, aren't they, on this? many people i think would believe this is the 9/11 moment of the gun control issue, after this terrible, terrible massacre in newtown. so, the question is exactly as you frame it, the political oomph, if you will, behind each side. after all of this, will the nra be -- have enough political muscle power on capitol hill to push back successfully against any new legislation that might be coming or will they have damaged themselves? what is the calculation? will those who favor reinstating the assault of the -- the ban on assault weapons or other new gun control legislation, including those high-powered magazines, those -- those magazines that can carry tense and tense and tens of rounds, will they have the political oomph this time to enact new
the nra, of course, disagrees. miguel? >> you know your way around the corridors of power in washington. did the nra, wayne lapierre hurt himself in friday by what can only be described as this rant? >> well, look, emotions across the country are running so high, aren't they, on this? many people i think would believe this is the 9/11 moment of the gun control issue, after this terrible, terrible massacre in newtown. so, the question is exactly as you frame it, the political oomph,...
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>> the nra also retained asa hutchinson, former u.s. attorney, congressman and homeland security official, to develop a model school safety plan focused on issues of design and access control and training for students and educators alike that the group could, said could be tailored by any school to suit its% individual needs. lou. lou: james, the two sides in this gun control debate, are now, if you will forgive the expression, they're armed up and going at it and getting ready for major confrontation. is there any compromise available in this, in this debate? >> as with the fisl cliff it doesn't appear readily discernable, lou. president obama released a video message vowing to fight for new gun control laws early next year. the down tours of this debate are already taking shape as leading democrats are pressing for renewed assault weapons ban and for new limit on semitick ammunition magazines. a leading senate democrat says she favored schools being allowed to have armed guards if they so choose but she then cited the columbine massac
>> the nra also retained asa hutchinson, former u.s. attorney, congressman and homeland security official, to develop a model school safety plan focused on issues of design and access control and training for students and educators alike that the group could, said could be tailored by any school to suit its% individual needs. lou. lou: james, the two sides in this gun control debate, are now, if you will forgive the expression, they're armed up and going at it and getting ready for major...
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and that's what i think -- that was the moral question to the nra. is this just the cost of doing business to you? are you willing to accept that we live in this kind of society where these kinds of horrific tragedies happen? and i think the whole nation stopped and waited to hear the response. and i think the answer is very disappointing because we can do better than this. you know, there are many countries. 23 of the richest industrial countries on earth except for us have 1/20 of our death rate from guns. this can be done. it's not that it can't be done. we can ban assault weapons, as senator feinstein is proposing, including the re weapon that was used in sandy hook, legally bought by the perpetrator's mother. that could have been banned. the large magazine rounds where you can fire off multiple rounds, that should have been done. background checks, 40% of guns are bought by people who don't have to go -- that's on the secondary market, they can avoid a background check. this is not necessary. we can do something like this. >> eloquently stated.
and that's what i think -- that was the moral question to the nra. is this just the cost of doing business to you? are you willing to accept that we live in this kind of society where these kinds of horrific tragedies happen? and i think the whole nation stopped and waited to hear the response. and i think the answer is very disappointing because we can do better than this. you know, there are many countries. 23 of the richest industrial countries on earth except for us have 1/20 of our death...
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bush white house calls the nra exactly what it is. a protection racket, a protection racket for republicans. he will join me. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their buddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your wallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. humans -- sometimes life trips us up. and sometimes, we trip ourselves up, but that's okay. at liberty mutual insurance we can "untrip" you as you go through your life with personalized policies and discounts when you need them most. just call... and speak with a licensed representative about saving on your policy when you get married, move into a new house... [crash!] or add a car to your policy. don't forget to ask about saving up to 10% when you combine your auto and home insurance with liberty mutual. security, coverage, and savings. all the things humans need to m
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i as a nra member believe enough is enough. we all need to come to the table and end up with appropriate restrictions. t oo the big question is will there be the votes? for 20-years this issue does nothing but lose an election. they change their mind on this there will be a seat change. you are seeing something different than what happened in the wake of aurora and indiana. close to 50 percent of people think there should be more restrictions on guns. past tragedies haven't made that change in public opinion. >> charles? >> i understand this reflects a move to do this. in principal i am not opposed to it. we a decade with an assault weapons ban in the mid 90s lasted for a decade. if you look at the studies had no aappreciateable influence on gun violence. there are three elements it's the shooter, it's the web and the environment. the main thing you want to look at is the weapon. there are other ways of looking at this. if you look at the shooter himself the mental health issue the fact that you cannot get a commitment on these
i as a nra member believe enough is enough. we all need to come to the table and end up with appropriate restrictions. t oo the big question is will there be the votes? for 20-years this issue does nothing but lose an election. they change their mind on this there will be a seat change. you are seeing something different than what happened in the wake of aurora and indiana. close to 50 percent of people think there should be more restrictions on guns. past tragedies haven't made that change in...
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the nra will oppose that. they said they favor lots of things to try to get at the violence of schools, more armed guards with guns at schools, a look at the culture of violence, that president obama grease with, better records in the instant check system of those adjudged to be mentally defective, that's the term in the law. they favor all those things except restrictions on gun, the nra does. there will be a big lobbying battle in congress when this begins to move. >> when we look back at 2008 and the court decision at that time regarding washington, d.c.'s gun control law, how might that decision come into play if at all. >> it's going to in some way. in a very narrow sense what the supreme court decision stands for is a very important thing. for the first time in american history the supreme court defined the second amendment. it said it does apply to an individual right to own a gun but it stands only for the constitutional right to possess a handgun in the home for self-defense. it doesn't say anything a
the nra will oppose that. they said they favor lots of things to try to get at the violence of schools, more armed guards with guns at schools, a look at the culture of violence, that president obama grease with, better records in the instant check system of those adjudged to be mentally defective, that's the term in the law. they favor all those things except restrictions on gun, the nra does. there will be a big lobbying battle in congress when this begins to move. >> when we look back...
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so what did he say about the nra's plea? quote, a shameful evasion of the crisis facing our country. >>> connecticut congressman chris murphy represents newtown. and here's his tweet after that nra speech. quote, walking out of another funeral and was handed the nra transcript, the most revolting tone deaf statement i've ever seen. >>> and reaction from a gun shop in douglasville, georgia. >> i think where we're at as a country, i think that's a good idea to start from. i think from there, we should start to pare it down and develop that idea a little bit more. >> since we do have armed people whether in our courthouses or our police stations and whatnot. i definitely think our schools would be a great place to protect our children while they're there, as well. >> we're hearing reaction for and against the nra's proposal. and we want to hear from you too this morning. what do you think of the gun lobby's idea to put armed guards in schools? you can tweet me @randikayecnn. >>> and we're remembering the victims of the newtown
so what did he say about the nra's plea? quote, a shameful evasion of the crisis facing our country. >>> connecticut congressman chris murphy represents newtown. and here's his tweet after that nra speech. quote, walking out of another funeral and was handed the nra transcript, the most revolting tone deaf statement i've ever seen. >>> and reaction from a gun shop in douglasville, georgia. >> i think where we're at as a country, i think that's a good idea to start from....
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the nra is soon going to start to push back. you are going to see a major news conference with the president of the organization wane lap peer and others on friday in washington. >> let me stop threw. that's ridiculous. nobody is going to see it? >> nobody is working on friday. it's a friday before christmas. not going to get any play. nobody is going to be watching over the weekend. why not. >> that's just one part of it, bill. you are going to see the full weight of this organization and four million members brought to baier in the legislative battles that carl cammeron just discussing. >> they say they are unwilling to compromise. >> i think you will find, bill, that the nra is not going to let an assault weapons ban being reinstated without a fight and draw a particular red line around senator feinstein's proposal to limit the amount of ammunition be loaded into semiautomatic weapons. >> bill: that will be interesting. >> one other thing real quick, biffle is that the manipulate membership nra has surged since newtown accord
the nra is soon going to start to push back. you are going to see a major news conference with the president of the organization wane lap peer and others on friday in washington. >> let me stop threw. that's ridiculous. nobody is going to see it? >> nobody is working on friday. it's a friday before christmas. not going to get any play. nobody is going to be watching over the weekend. why not. >> that's just one part of it, bill. you are going to see the full weight of this...
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he won with a 29% margin, defying the nra, even before tonight. defying the nra in kentucky. they were giving him a failing grade. they could tell he was not using their talking points even prior to now. there is a lesson there, it seems to me, as he was saying, in the ability to override the nra when it comes down to the real election for congress. >> yeah, you know, absolutely, and mayor michael bloom berg says that the nra is really just a paper tiger. if you look at their record in the just completed election, they had a less than 1% success rate in terms of all the money in the millions and millions they spent trying to defeat the president. but what i think is important, lawrence, you're starting to see the benefits of being with the nra, and sort of not risking them in opposing an election, are starting to be outweighed in being associated with them. i mean, the nra doesn't exactly have a sterling reputation here, they are the ones trying to clear the way to stop states from banning machine guns, to bring back the dillinger, so they're not actually a friend you want to
he won with a 29% margin, defying the nra, even before tonight. defying the nra in kentucky. they were giving him a failing grade. they could tell he was not using their talking points even prior to now. there is a lesson there, it seems to me, as he was saying, in the ability to override the nra when it comes down to the real election for congress. >> yeah, you know, absolutely, and mayor michael bloom berg says that the nra is really just a paper tiger. if you look at their record in...
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we'll have more on the nra in just a moment. right now i'm joined by tom kotz, kaley elkins, rich lucivella of "s.w.a.t." magazine, and jackie kellens. thank you for being here. they promised, quote, meaningful contributions to stop gun violence but in a press conference in which the organization took no questions, the executive vice president and ceo wayne lapier's only contribution was his call for armed guards inside all of the nation's schools. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. and to do it now to make sure that blanket safety is in place when our kids return to school in january. >> for 30 minutes lapierre went on a tread that was steadfast, unyielded and trying to blame violence on the insane monster that is pop late our society. but it turned into a glimpse inside the mind of the man who makes the nra, the lobbying arm of the firearms industry, tick. it was easily the most riveting, chilling and revealing
we'll have more on the nra in just a moment. right now i'm joined by tom kotz, kaley elkins, rich lucivella of "s.w.a.t." magazine, and jackie kellens. thank you for being here. they promised, quote, meaningful contributions to stop gun violence but in a press conference in which the organization took no questions, the executive vice president and ceo wayne lapier's only contribution was his call for armed guards inside all of the nation's schools. >> i call on congress today to...
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that's it. >> the nra says it has 4.3 million members. and the nra proposal is getting strong reaction on both sides. here is some of what you've been saying on twitter. proposal is ludicrous. is he suggesting we make our schools the front line. and if it's going to be put in place, it has to be a long-term placement so that future and current youth feel safe rather than scared. and what kind of gun would they carry? a machine gun, automatic gun, big gun, small pistol? one for each hand? and tammie jenkens says i thought about this the other day. if you know i'm armed you are less likely to attack me. and from hawkeye dave it's like dealing with teenage pregnancy by saying they should just say no. you can find me @randikaye/cnn twitter. >>> dedicated mother, olympian. that's the clean side of this sordid tale. wait till you hear the other part of this story. i gave birth to my daughter on may 18th, five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male
that's it. >> the nra says it has 4.3 million members. and the nra proposal is getting strong reaction on both sides. here is some of what you've been saying on twitter. proposal is ludicrous. is he suggesting we make our schools the front line. and if it's going to be put in place, it has to be a long-term placement so that future and current youth feel safe rather than scared. and what kind of gun would they carry? a machine gun, automatic gun, big gun, small pistol? one for each hand?...
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the nra says that's what will clean our children safe. we'll talk to one former governor who took on that gun lobby. >> thank you and god bless america. you guys are the best. thank you so much. >> then details out today about mitt romney's not so enthusiastic approach to running for the white house and what it might say about the will challenges ahead for the gop. good afternoon. all that and more ahead. >>> first, lawmakers are down to the wire on avoiding the fiscal cliff. will they get a deal done before the end of the year, president obama is on vacation and so is house speaker john boehner, but here's what they said before they left. >> call me a hopeless optimist, but i actually still think we can get it done. >> of course, hope springs eternal, and i know we have it in us to come together and to do the right thing. >> for more on all this i want to bring in nbc's white house correspondent kristen welker who is traveling with the president in hawaii. she joins us now from honolulu. hey, kristen. the president and the speaker are st
the nra says that's what will clean our children safe. we'll talk to one former governor who took on that gun lobby. >> thank you and god bless america. you guys are the best. thank you so much. >> then details out today about mitt romney's not so enthusiastic approach to running for the white house and what it might say about the will challenges ahead for the gop. good afternoon. all that and more ahead. >>> first, lawmakers are down to the wire on avoiding the fiscal...
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of the nra after these tragedies? >> in a word, nothing. the nra doesn't comment. why should they? you can't win this argument with the specter of 20 dead children hanging in the air. as painful as it sounds right now, memories fade. six months from now people will likely feel very differently about what went down in newtown. the nra probably won't comment then either but it won't need to because roughly half the population still thinks the answers to tragedies is more guns, protection. >> so, carol, what about the power of the nra as a lobby? everyone knows it is significant. you saw some of the campaign pictures. what kind of power are we talking about when it comes to money and numbers? >> it is not so much about the money. the nra has millions of members, 4 million members or more. that is like having 4 million votes in your pocket. so legislators, lawmakers are elected and know that. they are talking about real votes they may lose if they pass gun control legislation. that is the power of the nra. >> carol costello reporting for us live in atlanta. thank you for that insightfu
of the nra after these tragedies? >> in a word, nothing. the nra doesn't comment. why should they? you can't win this argument with the specter of 20 dead children hanging in the air. as painful as it sounds right now, memories fade. six months from now people will likely feel very differently about what went down in newtown. the nra probably won't comment then either but it won't need to because roughly half the population still thinks the answers to tragedies is more guns, protection....
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the nra's position is simply not ten nabl. when you have over 70% of americans, there should be a restriction on guns and, yes, we should have a registry for gun owners and for the nra to say, well, any sort of laws or amendments that you make, you know, it sort of takes away our ability to have guns or, once again, the second amendment, that becomes real problematic. they are not where the majority of americans are. the majority of americans are not where the nra is on this issue. >> erick, let me try this with you and then go back to lou cornell. i guess my point is, when you are looking at this discussion, it's not a discussion at all. everybody has their sort of own area that they want to talk about and no one is discussing, well, maybe we should discuss school safety. and the nra makes this point, when we want the make the president safe, he's surrounded by people with guns. when we want to make money safe at banks, we put men with guns there. so it's not as though it's a foreign concept to protect what is dear to people,
the nra's position is simply not ten nabl. when you have over 70% of americans, there should be a restriction on guns and, yes, we should have a registry for gun owners and for the nra to say, well, any sort of laws or amendments that you make, you know, it sort of takes away our ability to have guns or, once again, the second amendment, that becomes real problematic. they are not where the majority of americans are. the majority of americans are not where the nra is on this issue. >>...
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. >> this is my nra club card. i want to show you my tribute and how outraged i am at the loss of life in newtown. connecticut. this is what i'm going to do with this card. that's it. >> now, while many gun owners agree with the nra stance that retired police officer from michigan that you saw sent cnn a video he made where he cuts up his nra card. don? >> listen, about putting armed guards in school. that has been proposed before. so it's nothing new. and it's good at least they tried to do something. but they took no personal responsibility. and no intro aspects at all. it was disgusting to most americans. is there any evidence at all that putting armed guards in school will protect children? >> i mean, there just doesn't seem to be any evidence of it. certainly senator bloumenthal doesn't think so and we didn't get a chance to ask questions of the nra, because they didn't take questions from reporters. plenty of parents would not be comfortable with certainly having more guns in schools. for example, in the shoo
. >> this is my nra club card. i want to show you my tribute and how outraged i am at the loss of life in newtown. connecticut. this is what i'm going to do with this card. that's it. >> now, while many gun owners agree with the nra stance that retired police officer from michigan that you saw sent cnn a video he made where he cuts up his nra card. don? >> listen, about putting armed guards in school. that has been proposed before. so it's nothing new. and it's good at least...
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he has b-plus rating with the nra. what does he do? is he for whatever the steps are to move forward on gun control? that could be a problem for him in 2016. on the other hand, if he says with the nra, if they don't move, if there is no move fire department them and he stays with them and builds up his nra rating for the primary, of 2016, given he may be running for president, that may help him in primary. but with this environment, it could hurt him in the general election. that is not just him. a lot of the members. you are a senator from virginia, mark warner. are you going to step up, lead on gun control initiative again? here is somebody will do it. mansion from west virginia. a guy who used a gun in his ads and shot a senate bill, used it as a target. he is stepping away. it is going to be fascinating. but i think they were able to -- how far can they go and still avoid a primary problem later on? >> karl, they are talking about it being broad. not just gun control. mental health. and cultural issues. like video games and hollywo
he has b-plus rating with the nra. what does he do? is he for whatever the steps are to move forward on gun control? that could be a problem for him in 2016. on the other hand, if he says with the nra, if they don't move, if there is no move fire department them and he stays with them and builds up his nra rating for the primary, of 2016, given he may be running for president, that may help him in primary. but with this environment, it could hurt him in the general election. that is not just...
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and that means taking on the nra. they call themselves newtown united. their mission, to reduce gun violence and prevent other communities from ever having to live their nightmare. this morning, we are putting guns in focus. bill toomey help put together the group called newtown united. good morning to both of you. bill, to you first, i want to ask how you, your friends, your neighbors and your community is doing this morning. >> well, we're doing as well as could be expected, randi. it's been really hard on the community as you might imagine. but, you know, we're trying to work through all the different emotions. but this morning, we're doing okay. >> well, i know you're channeling some of those emotions into good work. and you had a meeting this week. and during your meeting, senator richard blumenthal and chris murphy said time wasn't on your side. did they explain what they meant by that? >> yes, they did. and we were very fortunate to have the senator and senator-elect join us this week. we had a series of meetings to try to begin a conversation in
and that means taking on the nra. they call themselves newtown united. their mission, to reduce gun violence and prevent other communities from ever having to live their nightmare. this morning, we are putting guns in focus. bill toomey help put together the group called newtown united. good morning to both of you. bill, to you first, i want to ask how you, your friends, your neighbors and your community is doing this morning. >> well, we're doing as well as could be expected, randi. it's...
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this is nra members. 57% of the nra members believe that everyone who wants to buy a gun should have to pass a criminal background check. 71% of nra members support banning people on the terrorist watch list from purchasing guns. those are not things that are true of american law right, which is amazing. if you are on the freaking terrorist watch list, you can buy a gun in america. if we're going to get past this almost hysterical fear of trying to do anything at all on gun rights, if we're going to try to puncture the myth that anything to reform or rationalize gun laws is absolutely politically impossible as a categorical thing, what would happen if we just started at the edges? what would happen if we just started even members of the nra say they want from national gun laws? because they want a hell of a lot more than we've got right now. the organization they are a member of may not admit that, but when you poll their members, even they want improvements. could we at least start with what nra members want? joining us now is congresswoman carolyn mccarthy. she is a democrat of new
this is nra members. 57% of the nra members believe that everyone who wants to buy a gun should have to pass a criminal background check. 71% of nra members support banning people on the terrorist watch list from purchasing guns. those are not things that are true of american law right, which is amazing. if you are on the freaking terrorist watch list, you can buy a gun in america. if we're going to get past this almost hysterical fear of trying to do anything at all on gun rights, if we're...
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and the membership of the nra the majority of the nra members would agree with you. we're experts sports men hunters we don't need the magazines with those types of bullets. what would wayne la pierre say on friday when they lift their vow of silence and speak to us. what do you think they'll say? >> i don't know. that's a big question. the only hint we got was this little online chat that they had on their website. in which they made some noises, incredibly enough, about arming more people, and arming more school officials which is just insane. arming teachers, arming--i don't know what. but if that's really the way they go, i think it's going to be so self marginalizing and so self-discrediting. you're right there was a poll this summer, i'm sure that's what you're alluding to, about n ra members and two-thirds of them believe there should be restrictions on the semiautomatic and automatic weapons. two-thirds of the nra members. but the nra leadership, they're holding out for the most extreme element. if that's where they want to go and if that's where all the repu
and the membership of the nra the majority of the nra members would agree with you. we're experts sports men hunters we don't need the magazines with those types of bullets. what would wayne la pierre say on friday when they lift their vow of silence and speak to us. what do you think they'll say? >> i don't know. that's a big question. the only hint we got was this little online chat that they had on their website. in which they made some noises, incredibly enough, about arming more...
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the nra's contribution? more guns. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> given the nra's track record, this is no idle chatter from a grand-standing lobbyist. this is what they do best. for most of the nra's history, the organization acted chiefly as a sporting and hunting association. in the first 100 plus years of its existence, the nra stuck to training and marksmanship and while they have had a legislative affairs division since the 1930s, it wasn't until the mid 1970s that the organization made a radical turn into politics. since 1980, 44 states have passed some form of law advocated by the nra that allows gun owners to carry concealed weapons. just in the past four years across 37 states, the nra and its allies have helped to pass 99 laws making guns easier to own, to carry in public, and harder to track. the group has helped pass legal gems like allowing gun owners in kansas to carry co
the nra's contribution? more guns. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> given the nra's track record, this is no idle chatter from a grand-standing lobbyist. this is what they do best. for most of the nra's history, the organization acted chiefly as a sporting and hunting association. in the first 100 plus years of its existence, the nra stuck to training and...
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nra members, they're okay with reasonable gun controls. the nra leadership has been fanatic and frankly functions as enablers to mass murder, and they've got to be stopped on that. >> and we have to face the value of some of the rhetoric. lindsey graham was on tv the other night saying in response to talking about sensible gun laws that, no, i believe in the second amendment. i like to hunt. that is not contrary to the sensible gun laws that anybody is advocating. you know, when you talk about something like criminal background checks, that has nothing to do with a hunter who wants to hunt, or a target shooter who wants to target shoot. >> it's been reported that the shooter had some issues mentally. that's what has been reported. how do we keep firearms away from those who have challenges? >> you require background checks for sale of guns to anyone. you get rid of the gun show loophole where someone at a gun show can sell it to anybody. can sell it to people on the terrorists list. can sell it to convicted pedophiles. can sell it to felon
nra members, they're okay with reasonable gun controls. the nra leadership has been fanatic and frankly functions as enablers to mass murder, and they've got to be stopped on that. >> and we have to face the value of some of the rhetoric. lindsey graham was on tv the other night saying in response to talking about sensible gun laws that, no, i believe in the second amendment. i like to hunt. that is not contrary to the sensible gun laws that anybody is advocating. you know, when you talk...
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should people fear the nra and why? where does this come from and why are they this untouchable group no one should challenge? >> there are 4 million members. they put their money where their mouth is, but in the last election cycle they didn't do well at all. they profiled certain senators for defeat and with the exception of one they all lost. they said that barack obama who has really been to call him cautious would be almost kind really silent on the issue. they said he would be a disaster. they lost with him. so i think that their political muscle has been very much diminished and whether it's been diminished or not people now who were formerly pro nra and were fearful of them are now ready to change their positions and vote against them. >> i want to move on and talk about the fiscal cliff. speaker john boehner certainly taking a huge hit last week with his plan b proposal, didn't even get off the ground with his own party. where does this leave things now? >> in some ways boehner was prophetic and said only gods
should people fear the nra and why? where does this come from and why are they this untouchable group no one should challenge? >> there are 4 million members. they put their money where their mouth is, but in the last election cycle they didn't do well at all. they profiled certain senators for defeat and with the exception of one they all lost. they said that barack obama who has really been to call him cautious would be almost kind really silent on the issue. they said he would be a...
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the nra is a master when it comes to psychology. listen to nra executive vice president from earlier this year. >> if president obama gets one more term it will break the back of the second amendment of this country. this is the most dangerous election in our lifetime if you are a supporter of second amendment. >> really? mr. obama did not push for a single piece of gun control legislation in his first term. no matter. in the nra's world obama's second term spells doom or maybe what happened at sandy hook does. dick's sporting goods says it is banning sales of some semi-automatic guns nationwide. the late nra famous for saying he would give us his gun if you pry it from his hands. >> from my cold, dead hands. >> what is it about guns that cuts to the core of the america psyche? is it the second amendment which says our right to bear arms should not be infringed or is it that gun owners see their relationship to this democracy through the eyes of the gun issue? what does owning a gun represent to you? facebook.com/carolcnn. >>> kids
the nra is a master when it comes to psychology. listen to nra executive vice president from earlier this year. >> if president obama gets one more term it will break the back of the second amendment of this country. this is the most dangerous election in our lifetime if you are a supporter of second amendment. >> really? mr. obama did not push for a single piece of gun control legislation in his first term. no matter. in the nra's world obama's second term spells doom or maybe what...
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the nra is a paper tiger. it is time to get this done, the time is now, the day's events just showed what must happen in this country. >> congresswoman, we have talked over the last several months about how there have been shifts on so many issues, many of them social issues, for example, gay marriage. that it does seem as if legislation is sort of catching up with public opinion, is that what is happening here? and is there a way to push it forward from your perspective? >> well, i have to tell you, chris, after one of our colleagues was shot at a
the nra is a paper tiger. it is time to get this done, the time is now, the day's events just showed what must happen in this country. >> congresswoman, we have talked over the last several months about how there have been shifts on so many issues, many of them social issues, for example, gay marriage. that it does seem as if legislation is sort of catching up with public opinion, is that what is happening here? and is there a way to push it forward from your perspective? >> well, i...
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his number one target the nra. >> what would you like the nra to know? >> that i think the public has finally come to the conclusion we are going to do the this whether you like it or not and connecticut is because of some of their actions. >> you hold them responsibility. >> i hold you and me responsibility. we didn't pay attention to what our legislators were doing. we have let our society, our country degenerate to the point where we have a murder rate that you cannot compare it to other countries. you can't put it on the same scale. >> the nra believes that it is working in the best interest of the american people. >> i don't know. they are not supposed to do that. they are supposed to work in the best interest of gun owners. they don't have a responsibility for the american people. they are paid for by the gun owners. there's nothing wrong with that. it is the rest of us that cave in to them that are irresponsible. >> a lot of people will be surprised to know fur on the no fly list, you can't fly but you can buy a gun. >> absolutely. >> he says for
his number one target the nra. >> what would you like the nra to know? >> that i think the public has finally come to the conclusion we are going to do the this whether you like it or not and connecticut is because of some of their actions. >> you hold them responsibility. >> i hold you and me responsibility. we didn't pay attention to what our legislators were doing. we have let our society, our country degenerate to the point where we have a murder rate that you cannot...
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in its first statement since the killings the nra has this to say. quote, out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again, end quote. cnn's george howell is following the politics and power of the nra. david mattingly shows us how talk of gun control is triggering a spike in gun sales. george, let's begin with you and the nra. what does it mean by meaningful contributions? >> carol, fair to say, it's an open ended statement. and since that statement, since the shooting, the nra has been silent. we know their facebook page, they took that down briefly. their twitter account also went cold. now both are back up. touting this big announcement friday. what that big announcement will be we have yet to see. again, we know their website is also up and run ing. you played just a moment ago a bit of this -- this program called cannon company. that's a
in its first statement since the killings the nra has this to say. quote, out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again, end quote. cnn's george howell is following the politics and power of the nra. david mattingly shows us how talk of gun control is triggering a spike in gun sales....
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when whitlock compared the nra to the kkk he was wrong. he stepped over the library when he did that. >> we are now monica going to make this a centerpiece of 2013 on the factor. and we're going to call people out will town size is i give these weasels publicity but i have to do it? >> when this kind of stuff goes on i think do you have a responsibility bill given your platform to call people out and reign it in as a society. i'm not for the word police but when it does cross the line. >> we have to do it. no one else is going to do it? >> you have to. >> bill: i have to. monica, colmes, thank you. next on the run down, chaos breaking out in michigan. big fight over union labor. president obama on one side. governor of michigan on the other. we will talk with the governor. and later charles krauthammer on how much tax american millionaires should pay to the government. we're coming right back. [ metal rattling ] ♪ hello? boo! i am the ghost of meals past. when you don't use new pam, this is what you get. residue? i prefer food-based phan
when whitlock compared the nra to the kkk he was wrong. he stepped over the library when he did that. >> we are now monica going to make this a centerpiece of 2013 on the factor. and we're going to call people out will town size is i give these weasels publicity but i have to do it? >> when this kind of stuff goes on i think do you have a responsibility bill given your platform to call people out and reign it in as a society. i'm not for the word police but when it does cross the...
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shame on the nra. >> one of the protesters led away after disrupting the nra speech, calling for armed guards in schools, says the group has too much influence over elected officials, and that's not all she's saying. she'll join us live. f year agai. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. >>> right now in the newsroom, the opening bell rang at the stock exchange. stocks will close early, 1:00 eastern for the holiday. if you're wondering who's ringing the bell, these are the 12 festive dancers from the monte carlo. i wish they'd ring the bell every day, don't you? onto the news. >>> u.s. senator michael crapo is apologizing after being arrested and charged with driv
shame on the nra. >> one of the protesters led away after disrupting the nra speech, calling for armed guards in schools, says the group has too much influence over elected officials, and that's not all she's saying. she'll join us live. f year agai. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get...